Jun 18, 2021 • 1HR 2M

Borders, Barriers, and Bridging the Black-Brown Divide with Pastor Milly Aquije and Gabrielle Apollon

Season 1, Episode 8

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Leaving colonized faith for the Kingdom of God – Shake the Dust features candid interviews and informed discussions that guide us as we seek Jesus instead of empire.
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This week, Sy and Suzie talk to Milly Aquije, an undocumented pastor and immigration activist, and Gabrielle Apollon, a human rights lawyer who grew up undocumented (and also at some point after that married Sy). We speak to them about growing up in the US as immigrants; the many immigration advocates, including Milly, who choose to disclose their undocumented status publicly; Gabrielle’s recent article on racism in both the immigration system and the immigrant rights movement; solidarity between Black and brown communities; and a lot more. 

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Shake the Dust is produced and edited by Sy Hoekstra, and transcribed by Suzie Lahoud with help from Descript

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